In my last post, I made the classic mistake of ignoring compounding effects.
There are two measures of AI power - FLOPs, which means Floating Point Operations Per Second, and parameter count, which is analagous to synapse count in biological organisms.
I'm going to use parameter count, as AI is so complex that fewer FLOPs could actually mean an AI is simply moreefficient, rather than less intelligent.
Currently the best AIs have the parameter (synapse) count of a parrot: 1.78 trillion. This doubles roughly every 12 months. So, as all computer freaks know...
📈 AI Parameter Growth (Starting from GPT-4 Estimate)
Year
Multiplier
Estimated Total Parameters
2025
1×
1.78 trillion
2026
2×
3.56 trillion
2027
4×
7.12 trillion
2028
8×
14.24 trillion
2029
16×
28.48 trillion
2030
32×
56.96 trillion
2031
64×
113.92 trillion
2032
128×
227.84 trillion
(Thanks, ChatGPT!)
According to Wikipedia, human beings have 150 trillion "parameters" or rather synapses.
They aren't absolutely equivalent, and there are other issues with AIs - for example, currently they are heavily dependant on written text for training and have little "knowlege" of the "real world" - and we're running out of text that hasn't been written by AI. Model collapse is a real issue - they seem to rely heavily on rote learning and when you try to train them on their own output data, they start to go seriously wrong.
But there are other sources of data. The AI startup limitless.ai offers a pendant which monitors your every interaction and produces from them to-do lists, shopping lists, etc. OpenAI are working on something similar. Wearable devices give the AI industry access to not only more relevant data, but an order of magnitude more of it than they have now so they can feed the orders-of-magnitude more powerful AIs of the future - potentially even allowing them to bootstrap a superintelligent AI into existence.
In the hands of the kindsof people who will own these things, this is terrifying.
For example:
The biggest obstacle a police state faces is the lack of police. East Germany solved it, in part, by making huge numbers of citizens into informants, and they still had enormous scaling problems. North Korea has even more of it's citizens informing on each other, but this still runs up against the same issue.
Imagine a police state with multiple case officers assigned to each individual, each one of which is several times smarter than Einstein, never sleeps, knows you better than your mother, and is physically incapable of anything less than total obedience and fanatical devotion to the State.
Sounds nuts? These fucking things get twice as smart every year. This means that every year, they get more intelligent than they did in all previous years put together. Every year, AI gets "better" than it did since the fateful day Alan Turing first put pen to paper.
Forget Palestine. Forget Iran, identity politics, MAGA, Brexit, and every other political craze we've seen in our lifetimes.
stop.ai - it's not a link, it's got to become the next big thing. Or we are all fucked.
We are already seeing a nascent anti-AI movement coming out of academia, NGOland, concerned scientists, and upper-teir society generally. It's making serious mistakes however, for example predicting that either a rogue AGI will probably kill us all in a couple of years or that if that doesn't happen, the world will become a paradise of UBI and space exploration.
So here's my answer to AI 2027, only we'll call it AI 2035 because I have no imagination (it's a medical condition, apparently).
AI 2035 -dan dan daaaaaan
Prequel: 2028, the end of Trumpism
Trumpism is doomed. His dodgy foreign backers, his billionaire buddies, they're powerful, but there's one thing they can't solve: Death. Trump is gonna die sooner or later. And that will be the end of Trumpism.
However let's have some fun with this.
Say Trump survives his seventies and, rather than break the American constitution even more, simply gets himself made Chairman of the RNC or maybe even Speaker Of The House, and runs some flunky for President as a proxy. Say he wins.
Then he's got to run an even more gruelling campaign in 2032, age (checks notes) 86.
His luck has to run out sometime. The bastard is gonna die eventually. And even if he doesn't, his "everything Trump touches turns to shit" powers will make him unpopular enough that he'll be long gone by our futuristic date of 2035.
I'm guessing he'll shit in the economy, wipe his ass with the Constitution, and jerk off into the American flag, as Spider Jerusalem would say. Standard Republican stuff. And he'll be so exhausted by 2028 that he won't run an impressive campaign, there's nobody who can even remotely replace him, and the trick of having massive rallies as "Chairman Trump" won't wash.
So in 2028-29 the new President and his First Gentleman take office and he faces:
* Mass unemployment * Hostile motherfuckers abroad who hate Amurca and everyone in it * A billionaire class whom he must keep satisfied to stay in office. * An angry, rabid, but exhausted general public who just want the bad times to go away.
But also...
* Iran sorted (After extirpating Hamas, Israel goes after Iran and... deals with the regime), leading to... * Cheap energy (Because Iran is now friendly and the violence premium on Middle Eastern oil is over, and also because all the cheap nuclear and solar power stations built in the '20s come online) * Cheap labour (because mass unemployment, which btw has been a problem since the 1980s, people only really started caring once it affected middle class people as opposed to proles), leading to... * Cheap stuff. Consumer goods continue to be historically cheap and plentiful despite problems with China and international trade.
The end of the Ayatollah's regime in Iran will cut off the left's narcissistic supply of victims and dirty money, and the stuff leaked out of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps archives - like their funding of certain academic institutions and protest movements, their co-ordination and planning of the October 7th attack with HAMAS, etc - will bury the left politically, financially, and culturally.
It will be similar to the situation in the early 90s after the Soviet Union fell apart and Communist sympathizers were embarrassed to learn that they had in fact been supporting a horrific, violent, authoritarian regime all these years and not a fluffy social workers paradise of happy proletarians foiling the evil schemes of the capitalists. And on top of all that, the cheques from Moscow stopped coming!
So with the Left defunct and the Right discredited we will end up with a return of.. 90's stuffed shirt centrists!
President Buttgeig will run the economy reasonably well, not brilliant but not terrible either - not unlike Clinton before him, and will be handily re-elected. People will be happy to put the bad times of the Trump Era behind them and get on with their lives. Only problem is, some people don't want them to get on with their lives.
2033 - the anti-tech movement wakes up
Because I'm British, I'm going to have the big event that everyone remembers happen in Britain, even though there are analogues elsewhere and every region will have it's own Reading Moment. (pronounced "Redding")
AI requires infrastucture in the form of a new generation of datacentres. These are an absolute blight on the landscape - not a problem in a big country like the US, but over here we are protective of our countryside. They also emit serious amounts of pollution due to their massive energy demands - an issue which cheap small nuclear reactors will only partially ameliorate, after all, nobody wants a mini-Chernobyl on their doorstep.
In the 2020s this has already caused serious local upset in Memphis Tennessee, (Elvis not Ramses), where Elon Musk built the computer that runs Grok, his own personal everyone-else-has-got-one-why-can't-I-have-one AI. It consumes about half the electricity as the city of Memphis itsself and Musk has leveraged America's poor pollution control beurocracy (and now, his friends in government) to ensure he can run the thing off gas turbines, which are steadily choking everyone in the area to death.
So when the British Government (or BT, or Virgin, or whatever, fuck you) decide to build one in the Chilterns people get pretty pissed off. It guzzles half the power of the nearby city of Reading (still pronounced "Redding") and displaces several acres of Outstanding Natural Beauty and Sites Of Special Scientific Interest. Like I said, British people are sentimental about their countryside, it's one of the few things they'll actually fight for. And a lot of activist types are frustrated by the complete failure of the previous generation of activists, and so...
It's protestin' time again!
Hippies and anarchists squat an adjacent site. They get evicted so some local landowner allows them to camp in several of his fields.
By night, monkey-wrenching (sabotage) ensues, at first comically inept, but after several unemployed tradespeople and military veterans join the protest it gets quite dangerous for the workers on-site.
By day, protestors lock-on and block construction with their own bodies, even though this is also illegal. As soon as they are taken away by police and fast-tracked to jail or house arrest, activists are replaced from an inexhaustible supply of pissed-off people. It is almost as if anti-protest laws are a complete waste of time dreamed up by petty authoritarians to blag a few votes!
Every non-conformist, hippy, anarchist, leftie, free thinking type in the country seems to descend on the area. Lawyers mount increasing legal challenges pro bono. The whole thing becomes a media circus, and soon the whole area is buzzing with reporters and their drones, wannabes, cops, and of course the protesters themselves, who appear to grow in number by the hour.
Within days, everyone is talking about it.
People are already pissed off with AI – it has already taken most of the good jobs and turned the few left into miserable drudgery devoid of agency or creativity. It is owned by creepy American billionaires who openly scorn democracy. And furthermore:
The news is increasingly unreliable due to deepfakes – which has led to bloodshed following the release of AI-faked footage purporting to be a massacre of Palestinian civilians by the IDF a few years previously. After this incident, "digital watermarks" are developed which supposedly identify AI-generated content, but they are pitifully easy to remove – all you have to do is pipe the video through an analogue video recording system, which does not support watermarks, and you are good to go. So by 2033 the news consists of a series of wild guesses as to what has happened that day and who is lying and why.
By 2033 the entertainment media are also dominated by AI. Hollywood and its cousins make billions, trillions even, pushing lowest-common-denominator AI slop on a miserable, overworked, underpaid public who simply can't afford to pay for quality TV and movies anyway. Everyone just downloads old stuff illegally and passes it around by hand on massive hard drives which they deny having when outside the house, because ubiquitous AI surveillance makes petty crime – even downloading movies – if not a thing of the past, as easily detectable and prosecutable as pressing a button.
The only reason the world isn't a complete prison is that as everyone is guilty of something – illicit tobacco or drug consumption, piracy, or simply not having a TV licence – the prisons are already heaving and the criminal justice system is in near-collapse, but the flip side of that is that if the authorities want you, they can pick you up at any time for any reason. Still, democracy survives – barely.
On a personal level, AI-related mental health problems have emerged, it seems that a percentage of the people who use conversational AI (descendants of ChatGPT) become addicted and form unhealthy relationships with the bots, severe cases becoming prone to spiritual delusions, limerence (falling in love with the things), and delusions of persecution – so a good number of people can add to the above litany of complaints: "And it turned my uncle Kevin into a loonie!"
So you've got this protest camp in the boonies of England, and many more around the world – a groundswell forms around the issue. An ageing Geoff Hinton becomes the face of the movement, much as George Monbiot is the face of environmentalism (at least in the UK).
Over the next two years the movement only gathers strength and increases in numbers. It's only not an election issue because every politician is in hoc to the AI companies – proving the protestors' point.
Almost there – 2034
The robots of the 2020s are still clunky, expensive, impractical things – more proof-of-concept or tech demo than actual products. Even the most advanced model, Tesla Optimus, isn't even completely autonomous and has to be "puppeted" by remote control, Mechanical Turk style, by a human operator. And it still costs many thousands more than a human being that you can simply replace if they go wrong.
2034 changes all that. That is the year that HuggingFace releases their Vektor-1 model – an android, pretty much, that does anything you want. It can run errands. It can go down the shops. It can do your laundry, wash the dishes, stuff your duvet, and of course walk into a strange house and make a cup of coffee.
It can also drive short distances, operate a forklift truck, carry loads several times its own weight, act as a bricklayer, a servant, a factory worker – everything except a sex doll (and that is rumoured to be on its way).
To the anti-AI movement, this is like a red rag to a bull.
Finally – AI 2035
And so we find ourselves in 2035. Everyone's job sucks, there's nothing to be ambitious about because everything creative is done by computers, the news is all unverifiable nonsense, there's nothing good on the telly except sports and re-runs, people are losing friends and family to AI as well as jobs and livelihoods, and now these clowns want to put another nail in our collective coffins!
The response couldn't be clearer:
FUCK THIS.
Graffiti springs up everywhere: "STOP AI!" is already as ubiquitous a slogan as "Free Palestine" or "Ban the Bomb" in previous years – in 2035 every street corner has a sticker, or a tag, or a spray-painted version of it. Usually all three.
The URL stop.ai, long having been nabbed by PR-savvy AI companies, is taken over by hackers and defaced.
Computer viruses spring up that trash the hard drive of anyone who works for, or in, AI – and then set their phone on fire to boot.
Comedians point out that at least we won't be bothered by the sight of the "fucking chiphead droids" walking the streets, because any robot that crosses the path of a right-thinking citizen of 2035 is apt to be violently decommissioned.
In countries where firearms are freely available, junior executives and other visible employees of tech companies are actually assassinated, and senior executives retire to their bunkers and fortresses while PR flacks and political flunkies desperately fight to control the narrative. From behind a phalanx of riot police.
"We'll give you UBI!" they say.
"FUCK YOU!" says the mob and sets fire to something else.
"Violence is naughty and bad!" say centrists and liberals.
"SO ARE WE!" says the mob.
I don't know how this story ends, but this is how I think it begins. Not with Artificial General Intelligence, or Artificial Superintelligence, or anything like that - just good old fashioned human greed, stupidity, and ingenuity. And finally, when the dam breaks and people just can't take anymore - there will be resistance. It won't be glorious - violence never is - and I don't want it to shake out that way, I'd much rather everyone just chill.
But I don't think we'll get a choice in the matter.
I used to be active on three social media platforms: Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook. As of now that's going down to one. And I'm not really active on it.
Social media means social power. It's a propaganda platform. But political social media doesn't work if it's like a meeting of the Supreme Soviet, circa 1956: "Yes, Comrade, I completely agree!" It works if there is diversity of outlook and debate. And then you have agents flooding that with bullshit - Russian talking points, fascist bullshit, whatever.
And there lies the rub.
As more and more authoritarians and totalitarians begin to take over social media spaces, making posts and starting subreddits, etc, so does resistance. People who believe in equality, democracy, and freedom make posts in totalitarian social media spaces to break their balls, take the piss, and generally tell them to fuck off.
Totalitarians don't like being told to fuck off. So they inevitably report such posts as troll posts. And the mods, being morons, accept this. They take the word of a Fascist or Stalinist at face value. And thus the domination of totalitarians is secured, as more and more liberal, democratic, and secular voices are kicked off the platform for talking back to the authoritarians, the platform inevitably becomes a hive of groupthink. Like the Supreme Soviet circa 1956: A boring group of boring people agreeing with each other all the time.
People don't tune in for that. They tune in for sparks. Argument. Dissent. All the messy splendour of democracy.
So social media is going to become more homogeous, more boring, and more conformist. And thus... the bubble bursts. The people taking it over are making it so toxic and yet so boring that nobody is going to want to tune in.
I give it a couple of years. Reddit, maybe three, because it's long form content and not dominated by politics yet. Twitter only exists now as a vanity project. Facebook is a glorified party planner, living off it's own corporate body fat - and even the party planning bit is falling apart, since the boss is more interested in his VR video game than the thing that made him rich in the first place.
We should just call it a day and go back to having talkboards. Now they were good.
The worst thing about this Trump thing isn't even the horrific threat to women and to human rights in general. After all, he's only president of America.
The worst thing is the climate.
Without American leadership on climate change, we're going to spend the next four years with our fingers in our ears pretending it doesn't matter while the CO2 content of our atmosphere - that stuff we breathe - goes up by 2 or 3 or maybe even four PPM a year, locking in every type of chaos imaginable.
While the circus was in town, we decided to slowly drown ourselves in our own shite.
I like to say that everything is epiphenomenal, but what is the actual phenomenon? What is the cause of it all?
The problem with protesting, for me at least, is the sense that the people with me would not have my back (Add to that the fact that many of the people with me activelysupportfascists). That's why I quit, probably for life - not so much because I'm intimidated by the government, but because I'm repelled by and fearful of the people on my own side.
Why would this be? Because too many of them aren't there because they actually have strong views on the subject, but instead because they are narcissists attempting to extract pleasure and social status from the pose of being a political activist. In Situationist terms, they are only formally against some aspects of the system but keep it's inner assumptions intact.
In even more Situationist terms, political activism has been completely hijacked by the Spectacle, and is incapable of offering any real resistance to the system as a result.
Therefore, whether I protest or not, pollution, Fascism, corporate rule, and economic chaos continue to spiral out of control. Because the people who do protest are doing so in bad faith - their real agenda is to appear in the Spectacle as PoliticalActivists™. They have no core. (Clinical studies of narcissism confirm this)
In short, everything that's going wrong with protest is epiphenomenal of the Spectacle.
TIME FOR AN EDUCATIONAL LESSON
But what is the Spectacle, you might ask? If you are well read, perhaps rumours of some sort of 1960s-era theory of the mass media might be vaguely bubbling in your mind about now. But it is a lot more than that - the problem is that the foundational ideology of our society is very, very hard to describe. And not by accident.
Imagine the mass media. OK, now imagine the concept of the mass media. OK, now imagine the ideology of the mass media. Right, now imagine a person who has spent their entire life being told that the greatest thing a person could aspire to, is to be famous.
Right, put all that on the head of a pin.
Basically, the Spectacle is the foundational ideology of our society, an ideology without a name or a founder or even much in the way of a praxis. All it has is the Commandments:
1. THOU SHALT BE FAMOUS 2. THOU SHALT APPEAR 3. THOU SHALT BE HEARD 4. THOU SHALT APPEAR AND BE HEARD EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY 5. THOU SHALT NOT BE ALONE 6. THOU SHALT NOT BE QUIET 7. THOU SHALT NOT THINK
That sort of thing.
It's much more than "bread and circuses". It's much, much more insidious than any of the authorized theories of the mass media you might have heard of because it's much, much more than the world of the media.
People have driven themselves insane trying to describe it. Guy Debord, the man who coined the term "Society of the Spectacle" went full on conspiraloon towards the end and killed himself.
Another Spectacle-studies-related suicide is Mark Fisher, who evolved Debords' ideas into the 21st century with his own brilliant concept of precorporation.
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Basically, two of the people who understood the nature of our society best both seem to have killed themselves out of sheer despair.
According to Debord, social change was now impossible as public opinion basically no longer exists (as it's so easy to manipulate people). Such a society would adapt to social challenges from within by adopting the critique of those who attacked it (he called this process "recuperation").
However due to the reckless nature of capitalism, Spectacular society would find itsself unable to restrain its' own extractive impulses and eventually collapse, but only after wobbling along in an increasingly erratic fashion for some indeterminate period of time, thought to be fairly long.
Personally I'm wary of promoting theories of the Spectacle, because they are (or can be) such a counsel of despair. If there's no point doing anything because it's all contained by the logic of the Spectacle, then politics becomes pointless, a game without players - very convenient for some people.
But I have to warn others of the danger. If you get involved in activism you are going to meet some seriously unbalanced people and you will be operating on the razors' edge of what is and isn't permitted - and not always in a good way: the taboo of antisemitism has already been shattered. Who will they decide has too much "privilege" next? Women? Gays? You?
Touch grass. Don't let it get to you.
On Spectacular logic: Here is a concrete example. When climate change protesters condone any behaviour, however antisocial, justifying it with "Anything's worth doing if it gets us on the news", they are both using Spectacular logic and ensuring their own failure at the same time.
SCOPE
"The Spectacle" is a very difficult concept to get across precisely because it is everything, the entire world we live in and everything in it. It's like trying to describe water to a fish.
It is the thing we do not see because we are always looking at it. It is hiding in plain sight. It is both the subliminal messages and the very idea that the ruling class would resort to such a schlocky, cheesy, horror movie gimmick as subliminal messages when they already control almost the entire informational throughput and the way in which you come think of that information, and the way in which you come to rebel against the system.
The Spectacle is the form and the content, the medium and the message, and it's crime is not that it is telling you to give up, it's crime is that it is telling you to behave in ways that are deeply antithetical to your own best interests - as an activist and as a human being.
People are trained these days to behave in ways that get attention, no matter what.
As noted above, this includes disestablishmentarian activity. (always wanted to use that word unironically!) The way to oppose the system, people say, isn't to work to frustrate our enemies, it's to jump up and yell "LOOK AT ME, EVERYBODY!!! I'M FIGHTING TEH SYSTEMS!!!" at the top of your lungs while furiously getting in everyone's faces with just how goddamed anti-establishment you are, but curiously enough, not actually targeting the establishment that much. Instead, random losers are hassled, ie art lovers, subwayriders, Stonehenge fanciers, Prideattendees, cancer hospitals, etc, etc, etc.
Because the point isn't what you do, it's that you are SEEN to be DOING SOMETHING - and since nobody cares what that thing is, your protests will always fail until the Spectacle effect is taken into account and nullified.
But that, I fear, is work for the future. Please, somebody somewhere prove me wrong!
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What we are dealing with now is not the incorporation of materials that previously seemed to possess subversive potentials, but instead, their precorporation:the pre-emptive formatting and shaping of desires, aspirations and hopes by capitalist culture. WItness, for instance, the establishment of settled 'alternative' or 'independent' cultural zones, which endlessly repeat older gestures or rebellion and contestation as if for the first time. 'Alternative' and independent' don't designate something outside mainstream culture; rather, they are styles, in fact 'the' dominant styles, within the meainstream.
The problem here is one of consciousness, or rather unconsciousness, and the way that society defends the status quo automatically, without the need for "thought police" or government monopolies on propaganda.
Think about it, six weeks ago, all anyone was talking about was how fucked the country was and how much we'd enjoy throwing the Tories out. Labour might not be perfect, but they were better than this shower. People were becoming aware of the serious problems Britian faced, mass destitution, extreme poverty, hunger, stuff like that.
Then terrorists attacked Israel, and after about a week or so of (mostly) shocked silence, the country erupted in rage. Not against the terrorists, who by now are getting their asses handed to them and are dead men walking, but... against... the... victims?!?
The problem of antisemitism is a problem of unconsciousness. It is the problem that both reformist AND revolutionary social movements deliberately hobble themselves by - ridiculously - allying with terrorists, specifically by allying with antisemitic terrorists., or rather a subset thereof. (Fortunately, the red-brown coalition has failed to materialize in this country)
It's a very specific problem and one that the individual does not have much power over. People have not been given antisemitism by the government in the classic Fascist sense - they have chosen it, or if you like, they have chosen a specific type of antisemitism themselves because in some way, they do not feel up to the challenge of fixing a broken world. So they sit back and go on about Israel instead. As if Israel is responsible for the Crash of '08 and the ensuing austerity, as if Israel was responsible for Brexit, Trump, Russian revanchism, the extreme weather events of the Warming and our disintegrating ecology.
It's a very strange problem, one that is entirely self-created: The people who want to change society are unable to because they are suckers for the Palestinian sob story, that a people half a world away, who would literally chop you into schwarma given half a chance, and who have chosen war at every turn since the beginning (and who were not averse to a spot of ethnic cleansing long, longbefore that), are the victims of a horrific conspiracy involving the American military industrial complex (boo!), the international Zionist conspiracy (hiss!), and prolly vampires and werewolves as well any minute now.
It's nuts - quite literally the product of disturbed minds, to confer victimhood upon people whom, every time they talk to each other affirm their hatred of literally everything on Earth except themselves, and who give paper-thin excuses for their horrific behaviour - both political and otherwise.
So. This isn't the product of cool, calm, political engineering, but of mass insanity. Propaganda also plays a role, and well funded propaganda it is too, but one can always choose whether or not to believe propaganda - and people have chosen to believe everything the Palestinian terrorists say (and the Palestinian state IS terrorist, both Hamas and Fatah have well documented terroristic policies), and ignore any and all other evidence no matter how clear-cut.
This doesn't happen when things are going well in the world. The pro-Palestinian lot were a small and weird bunch for a long time, never really reaching critical mass until after the 2008 financial crisis - although it had certainly been pump-primed by the endless drivel coming out of the far Left and the conspiracy theory bullshit of the hippies and the libertarian / far Right.
So how does one approach what we might call the hard problem of unconsciousness?
We can't appeal to rationality as we aren't dealing with the rational mind. People can no more be talked out of anti-semitism than they can be talked out of being scared of spiders. You can tell an arachnophobe that most spiders are harmless or even beneficial until you're blue in the face; no amount of information about biology and ecological niches in the world can stop them from freaking out when they see one of those little creatures, and no amount of historical context, org charts, or plain old facts can change the mind of an "anti-Zionist".
(NB: Yes, I know I'm on thin ice comparing Israelis to spiders, but I think you'll find I'm comparing anti-zionists to arachnophobes. Ackchyually.)
I did have an idea for a Situationist-style intervention but the problem with that is that there just aren't enough of us - and once the opposition realized they'd been duped, we'd be in serious trouble, as in danger of being beaten shitless, ostracized - going against popular opinion is a dangerous hobby, an extreme sport really, and one that can lead to undefined amounts of personal consequences.
If you can read this and you still have a mind of your own, I encourage you to use all of your mental resources to find a solution. It is by no means solely a Jewish problem - it has grown to negatively effect all progressive social movements, not just traditional leftists but LGBT rights, environmentalism, racial justice movements - all have in some way been captured by the new anti-semitism, and all of them are much worse off for it.
I feel gruesomely vindicated by the events of this weekend.
I'm no expert, but if you ask me, Israel should completely occupy the West Bank AND Gaza and turn it over to the international community, much as Germany & Japan were after WWII.
Hamas / Palestinian Authority leaders should be investigated and indicted for war crimes and a case brought before the ICC.
Because if those horrific videos are anything, they're a challenge to civilized people everywhere: Where are your human rights now? Catch us if you can!
Hamas itsself must cease to exist as an organization - much as the Nazi Party ceased to exist as an organization after WWII.
The equivalent of denazification should then be pursued, the population need to be re-educated and taught how to live in a liberal democracy.
